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Dario Amodei (Anthropic CEO) — The hidden pattern behind every AI breakthrough

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## Dario Amodei (Anthropic CEO) — The hidden pattern behind every AI breakthrough

plus: bioterrorism, China, cyberattacks, scaling

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Here is my conversation with Dario Amodei, CEO of Anthropic.

Dario is hilarious and has fascinating takes on what these models are doing, why they scale so well, and what it will take to align them.

Watch on [YouTube](https://youtu.be/Nlkk3glap_U). Listen on [Apple Podcasts](https://apple.co/3rZOzPA), [Spotify](http://bit.ly/3QuOOMA), or any other podcast platform. Read the full transcript [here](https://www.dwarkeshpatel.com/i/135814349/transcript). Follow [me on Twitter](https://twitter.com/dwarkesh_sp) for updates on future episodes.

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